No. It's classic "I was a pre-boon Free Agent" -itis. Derrick Dockery who (BTW PETE) happens to be about 7 years YOUNGER, and 40 LBS BIGGER....got almost 50 Mil.
He knows it as well as we do. The media's just stupid and doesn't note this fact, so he's taking advantage of that and trying to get the media on his side to give him leverage. If he didn't then, they'd easily portray him as the greedy bastard that he's turning into from my POV.
The simple solution here is to pick out a team in the NFC that needs a guard and make a very conditional trade with them. Here's how I would go about it: Offer them Kendall for a 7th next year, which turns into a 5th if he plays the majority of the downs on offense OR a 2nd if they trade him to another team. That neatly gets around the worry that he gets sent back into the AFC East in another trade. The worst thing that could happen is he gets cut by the receiving team, which is unlikely given the 7th round investment.
Because he restructured last yr, and the Jets said they do not restructure with people who have 3 yrs to go.
Seems fine to me. At this point, he's as good as gone with his antics so we might as well get what we can for him.
The assumption that this regime is going to mirror everything that the Pats do is probably pretty far from the truth. You can tell this with the way they interact with the public... they may be following a blueprint, but this is a rivalry and these guys don't want to be known as Patriots Lite, they are going to form their own identity by their actions. That said, part of the blueprint they are following has to do with keeping the long-term success of the team at the forefront of all things. We don't know what went on with the extension last year, but we do know that Kendall will go to the press if he feels he is unappreciated, and Kendall feeling unappreciated tells me is that the CS doesn't think he has a lot left in the tank. I doubt Pete Kendall is a Jet for more than one more season, regardless of what happens this offseason.
kendall wanted his walking paper's and most likely accomplished it with his biatch fest to the media. he'll have his way but will have to wait till mangini is good and ready to let him go. kendall is obviously betting he'll get more on the open market than what the jets are going to pay him this year. this past free agency period did a lot of good for guards in this league and teams are going to pay the consequences of the foolish contracts given out. all in all, the jets are going to be the loser's in this in the end. we'll lose a steady still serviceable guard with nothing but question marks as replacements! kendall did a lot more last season than some want to give him credit for. he help the rookie's (mangold and brick) transition to the pro game with steady veteran leadership on the line. no matter how some want to spin it, it is not good for the jets oline or the team. they gave coles an entra mill last season and he still had a few years on his contract. so the team saying they don't renegotiate contracts is bs. they played chicken with kendall and are going to lose in the end.
How do you know he HELPED the rookies? How do you know he didn't HINDER the rookie's progress because they had to cover his mistakes? I'm just playing devil's advocate here. Don't tell me what the players said in the media.. w hat do you EXPECT them to say? Losing Kendall is not a good thing, but it's not an awful thing either. While I'm not a Coles FAN, they actually didn't give him an EXTRA million last yr. THEY MOVED 1 M from a future year to last year to free up space for that future year! Big difference. You do that for players you see in your future.
If Kendall was hindering the rookies to his right and left there is NO WAY IN HELL he would have started 17 games last season. If you don't want to take what the guys on the field with him had to say about him as truth, then just look at what happened last season and you'll know he definitely did not hinder either of the rookies progress. c'mon.
The Patriots don't treat their vets that way. Ask Harrison, Brown, Anthony Pleasent, Rick Lyle among others. When the Pat had extra cap space during a season, BB commonly gave the lesser paid guys money without them asking for it. Most recent was Brown last year and Harrision the year before, both getting an extra 500k for no reason other than good will. That said, he'd probably cut Kendalls butt, but come on. All of a sudden he's chopped liver?! I love it when folks say he was average or less than average last year. He was sandwiched between two rookies! How good would any guard look when they had to nursemaid two rooks? If he's cut, he'll sign for more than he's making now. Good luck starting the year off without him. It may help lessen the blow for my Pats if Samuel does hold out. You just know Belichick will apply a load of pressure against whoever ends up taking his place.
Who would have played in his spot? Wade Smith. I don't think Kendall hindered the rookies, NOR do I think he helped the rookies. Seems like a "me first "player to me, so I doubt he'd do more than do his job. Did you actually read EVERYTHING I said. You convienently cut out this part:
No I read everything you said. I was just rebutting your devils advocate. I should have kept the whole thing in there (I'll fix it). Why don't you think he helped the rookies? Why don't you believe what they said? Why didn't anyone shit on Kendall before this whole contract dispute? edit: This whole deal with people shitting on Kendall is bullshit to me. I don't remember seeing anyone shit on him until the contract dispute came up. Once that started making headlines everyone talked about how his skills were declining and he isn't very good, blah blah blah. I shouldn't be surprised though, many people on here keep there green shades on at all times and for whatever reason don't see things objectively. You'll see it with news reports that are unfavorable to the Jets (this guy is an idiot ...)), pickups by other teams (Randy Moss won't make a difference ...), and in this situation (Kendall sucks anyway ...). I'm not saying that you are not objective, I don't know enough about you, I'm saying that as a whole the views on this website aren't very objective.
i'm not surprised with your response. doubt you really believe what you just spun. i guess you just refuse to take the green glasses off today. i don't need to counter any of your quote's, WILLYWHITESHOE has already made my points for me. you don't have to be a homer all the time to be a good jet's fan. most are piling on kendall with all the, "his skills are declining crap" because he IS INDEED BEING A GREEDY BIATCH, otherwise he would still be a great pickup like everyone was piling on when we first got him!!!
Until proven otherwise, we are infinitely better off now than we were with Herm. If Mangini has some tenure with the Jets we will have our cut at a Super Bowl. Getting there requires hard work and hard decisions. That is just the way it is. We were never going to win a Super Bowl with Herm and his very loose reined way of coaching. I think we also may have eventually witnessed somebody get fatally injured because of lack of physical and mental preparation. We are in a better place now. A strong tree can not stand without good roots.
He took a 4 and 12 team to the playoffs genuis..In his rookie year..thats +6 turnaround!! Mangini is the real deal and if you don't see it, then your intelligence is in question here chief. I don't believe he 's (Mangini) asking for his contract to be redone.. is he..Kendall signed his deal..honor the damn contract!!
Playing devils advocate means I'm just giving another point of view... not that I necessarily believe that point of view. However, you say people didn't "shit" on Kendall until this contract stuff came out, and that's not true. Many on this board have said how they feel we need a bigger guard and having such a small one hurt the running game. Look....... Kendall has done this BS before. He did it in Arizona, eventually leading to him being cut. Part of that was Dennis Green just not being very bright, but there was more to it. He complained to the NFL about camp, sure but I doubt that was all that happened (or there would have been a grievance filed faster than you can imagine) Now onto Kendall.... I don't think he had any influence, negative or positive, in our rookies. Reading the quotes now from Kendall himself makes me feel the coaching staff agrees. He said that Mangini had reservations about having him on the team last year. That makes me think Kendall isn't the leader we all think he is. If Kendall was so important to their progress, I don't think 1M extra would stand in the way of Kendall being on the team. I think if Kendall eventually is traded/cut/whatever and is not on the team, we won't suffer much from it. Kendall would be good to have on the team because he can play center, but I doubt he wants to be a backup. I don't know much about the backups we have, so don't scream and yell about that, but I don't feel Kendall leaving is the end of our season.
Many of us have been calling for an upgrade at guard, including Kendall's spot since mid last season. His skill has depleted tremendously in the past acouple years. Additionally, getting overpowered at the point of attack, and d-linemen easily executing swim moves against him, have little or nothing to do w/ playing between 2 rookies. Those 2 rookie's were both first rounders not only for their great physical skills, but also b/c they had outstanding maturity, poise and leadership qualities. There is no reason they cannot handle starting w/o Kendall, w/ a mostly successful performance last year, coupled w/ playoff experience. As for The potential replacement, We may take a step back leadership wise, but truthfully, Kendall was holding on by a thread physically, and w/ a few well thought of youngsters competing for the spot, we may stand to see an upgrade skill-wise. Not to mention, Ferguson and Specifically Mangold were brought here to be long term leaders. They've held up to all the challenges of the NFL thus far, all the more reason for them to begin becomming true leaders in the trenches. This may have some growing pains, but I believe this could result in a younger, more talented and cheaper offensive line. And all those things, are good things.
I'm fully aware of what playing devils advocate means - thanks for the explanation though. Just because that's what you're doing doesn't mean I cannot disagree with that point of view does it? As for people talking about an upgrade at guard, MOST of that talk was about right guard and none of it (directed towards Kendall) was nearly as negative as everyone is now - please show me the posts if you believe they are out there. No Kendall leaving isn't the end of our season, but I completely disagree that losing him doesn't hurt us this season. He's still the best guard on our team (not saying he's a great guard) and whoever fills in will be worse than him unless we bring someone else in.
KTJF - I read this board quite a bit and I really don't recall seeing many people calling for this upgrade. Where are these posts? I had a link to this post in my sig for a while: 03-26-2007 http://forums.theganggreen.com/showpost.php?p=502113&postcount=18
