X's and O's Question RE: The Patriots

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  1. Skicats

    Skicats Well-Known Member

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    My original point was that E. Smith has no chance of being able to cover Woodhead, or mostly anyone with quickness. That has been a fact of E. Smith's career. He's a big hitter, and good in the run game, but can't cover anyone. Don't ague ith me over this point because you would only be showing ignorance. Are you ignorant, or just someone who can't admit when they are wrong?
     
  2. FriendlyGiantsFan

    FriendlyGiantsFan New Member

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    I could see Wilson playing this role. The only question I have is as to whether Wilson has the familiarity with the defense required to play such a position. The rookie wall seems to have hit him already and I don't know if I would trust him to keep the Pats in 3rd and long (a down and distance the Jets basically win by default).

    I think you mix this RB spy strategy in with some of the heavy blitzing Rex is known for to maximize its success. You want Brady seeing ghosts and fearing blitzers that aren't coming; that way when he tries to go hot he ends up throwing into coverage.
     
  3. kbgreen

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    When I watched some of the Cleveland they seemed to stuff the TE on the line and when they spread out they hit them before 5 yeards to slow them down. They did not do it the whole game but for a big portion.
     
  4. mezzavo

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    I think Wilson could handle it...really, all he has to do is focus on the backs and if no backs one of the slot guys. It can be done... :wink:
     
  5. ThunderbirdJet

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    Duh... yeah, that's it. :rofl:
     
  6. BK_Jetsfan

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    Seriously, this shit right here: INSTANT CLASSIC!
     
  7. ThunderbirdJet

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    Have yer fun jack wagons... the only point was that Woodhead makes highlight films because he has proven to be a game breaker, a big play RB for the Pats, while Faulk wasn't. Faulk was a run of the mill 3rd down back. Not explosive at all. Never a threat to break a big play. Woodhead is far more than that. Like Leon was, he can make a big play any time he touches the ball.
     
  8. FriendlyGiantsFan

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    I think you're missing the point a bit. Woodhead/Faulk don't need to make the highlight films to be effective. If Woodhead finishes the game with 6 carries for 30 yards and 3 receptions for 45 yards, but manages to pick up 5 first downs, twice manages to turn a 2nd & long (following a sack) into a more manageable 3rd down, and also helps set up 20 yard completion to Hernandez via faking an RB screen, I would say he did quite a bit to help win that game.

    Woodhead is the bread (specifically Wonderbread) that makes that sandwich work; he may not be the most exciting part of that offense but his contributions are very valuable.
     
  9. Cakes

    Cakes Mr. Knowledge 2010

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    He did not do anything special against the Jets in Week 2.
     
  10. WhiteShoeWillis

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    When was the last time the dominant 34 year old Fred Taylor was even active? I can't believe this guy is trying to sell him as some kind of fucking secret weapon. bwahah
     
  11. 624

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    But didn't you hear?

    He's fresh.
     
  12. Cakes

    Cakes Mr. Knowledge 2010

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    He was active against the Lions on Thursday.
     
  13. Miamipuck

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    [YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-z34SR-Htz0&feature=related[/YOUTUBE]
     
  14. WhiteShoeWillis

    WhiteShoeWillis Well-Known Member

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    Oops. FUCK. I guess he will be FRESH.
     
  15. Chrisp22

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    I've seen a few times where folks are stating Ihedigbo needs to have a big game. Since the guy usually is only out there on a blitz package, I can't see it happening. Unless you are saying he is going to have to come up with plays on ST.

    I also like the enthusiasm posters are having with blurting out "just hit Brady." If it was so damn easy, ya think the rest of the league might have tried it? It's hard to get to Brady so disguising the defense may be the most important element.

    Jamming different guys at the line at different times may be effective at throwing Brady off his timing.
     
  16. BonScott

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    Lol Debo diagram
     
  17. Jets Dan

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    I totally agree. For all the blitzing the Jets have done this year (and the Bengals game aside), we haven't produced enough sacks or picks.
     
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    Another big part of that win was Strickland disrupting screen plays. It would be nice if one of our backup DBs had a game like that.
     
  19. NDmick

    NDmick Revis Christ

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    I'm looking at you Kyle Wilson.

    He's a better tackler than Coleman. I don't trust Coleman in the Strickland role.

    I really don't think Strickland's impact has been understood for what he did last year. Its actually quite amazing how fluid the defense was with him being the jack of all trades and doing a lot of dirty work when he was healthy.
     
  20. NDmick

    NDmick Revis Christ

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    Why are you arguing like Junc?

    Me ignorant is hilarious, ask around.

    Woodhead is not the white Leon Washington pre-injury. What the fuck is wrong with you people? Stop overrating gritty, white Chrebet-like players. He's doing well in a limited role in the Pats offense. He's not a home run hitter like Leon was in his prime (yes, Leon's prime is over, I'm sorry everyone).

    He can make plays but by no means is he above an above average rating.

    This is sad.

    I'll admit when I'm wrong when he has a 3 TD day and is the reason why the Patriots win. So far, Tom Brady is why the Pats win. Woodhead is a cog.

    Its not ignorant to think Woodhead is an above average player like Faulk was who thrived very well in his limited fucking role.

    Why is this difficult to grasp? I'm not afraid of Danny Woodhead. He gets 10 touches a game on average.

    That post was not in response to you. You want to talk about Eric Smith? Fine. Smith has shown he cannot cover those with decent route running skills. If you want to put Pool on Woodhead, I'm all for it. Why the fuck butt in on a different argument to prove a point out of thin fucking air?

    I love how you grab a different argument to talk about Eric Smith. I'm discussing Woodhead's JAGness.

    You need a win that badly?

    Pretty fucking ignorant.

    Here, this is what you want:

    okay, now in response to your post:

    You called Woodhead one of the more quick, elusive RBs in the entire National Football League. Incorrect. If that was the case he'd be the next Leon Washington pre-injury. That is wrong.

    I talked about E. Smith covering Faulk last year and shutting him down on 3rd down only, because that's when Faulk (Woodhead) is used. Now earlier I said I don't mind putting Pool on Woodhead, but I also have no problem thinking that Smith can handle Woodhead on a couple of 3rd and 6s every now and then. I think Pool and Smith can do it. So I don't have a problem with Smith on Woodhead. Its not like putting Drew Coleman on Andre Johnson.

    When Woodhead proves he can take over a game, I'll give him the credit you want to give him. Gamebreaker.... wow.

    3rd down back.

    But I'll say this much - there is an offensive package that has the sole purpose of getting Woodhead a TD against the Jets. Its no different than what the Pats did with Baker last season. Its gamesmanship.

    Oh shit, I forgot that I've seen old man Faulk make people miss too, and is constantly open on 3rd downs in the flat. So where's the difference again?
     
    #80 NDmick, Dec 1, 2010
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