hmm..let's see, he hit 2 hrs which both times gave them the lead..he hit a double to set up another run...i guess he needs to become a pitcher too so that he can single handedly win 162 games a year for them..then they can get rid of everybody else and be guarenteed a ws win every year he plays for the rest of his life. that's how he did
hmm..do you even know what the word clutch means? Everytime you are behind it is a clutch situation. I told you how he did in the clutch. Like I said he isn't the pitcher too. The appropriate question would have been how did Rivera do in his clutch situation. Despite the fact it appears that way, Arod ISN'T the whole team. If you wanted to just concern yourself with hitting you could have also asked how did Jeter, Giambi, Cano and Damon do in the clutch. Combined they still don't have the number of RBIs that Arod has by himself.
WT is here to rub it in! what a shock, whee was he last August and September? Mr. front runner returns! What an incrediby frustrating game, the Sox bottom of the lineup beats mariano but our heart of the order can't get it done against some scrub pitcher. I guess Mariano is stuck in his almost annual early season troubles.
They haven't, sure they have had some success against him in the reg season but not much in postseason nd big games down the stretch. people forget he shut them down in '99 and '03 an in '04 he blew the one agme then came on w/ 1st and 3rd an 0 out to "blow"the 2nd one. he did an amazing job to get out of that inning w/ 1 run given up. Right now Mariano is going throgh his usual early season troubles.
I agree. I just don't understand why when he looked so good coming out of spring training. I think Torre has to wake up and use him more, even if it isn't a save situation. He is going days at a time with no action and it is probably making him stale.
That's exactly it. Mo hasn't had many opportunities coming out of Spring Training. He's the kind of guy that needs to work. He always has been. This has nothing to do with the Sox "figuring Mo out." The fact is, they played harder late, and earned a win, and Joe Torre is a total f'n tool. Mister Micromanagment blew yet another game for us. But blaming Mo or Joe is taking due credit away from the Sox, who outplayed us late in the game. We can bitch all we want about how the Sox lineup isn't as good as ours. Or their bullpen should be outclassed by us. Or whatever. The fact is, the Sox are, and have been, a playoff team. We underestimated them last night. Joe Torre sending in a rookie to get thrown out at second in place of Giambi was STUPID. Joe pulling Myers after one batter once again, STUPID. Joe allowing Thompson to hit rather than let Phelps pinch, STUPID. (I understand the point is because Phelps was the only guy left available to catch, but you just give up the DH, and pray it doesn't go 12 innings.) Sending in Mo to make up for Sunday's debacle, in Boston, after sitting for a week, STUPID. Joe Torre simply made his typically poor decisions, and left the door open for Boston to beat us. This is not Tampa Bay, this is one of the best clubs in the league, and a legit playoff contender. If you give a team like the Sox a chance to beat you, the chances are, they are going to. ------------------- On a side note, I don't know how many people saw the Cards/Cubs game or clips yesterday. There was a play late in that game where the guy on first took off to steal, but the hitter's result was ball four. Rather than pay attention, he slid into second, head-first, and overslid the bag. A heads-up play by Eckstein had him tagging out the runner. That's smart heads-up baseball. Why do I bring that up? Was anyone watching Cano playing absolutely LAZY on Ortiz's overslide? Could have been the SAME EXACT play. My wife and I were both saying it. Quite simply, as good as Cano can be talent-wise, he has some severe mental lapses during games. He plays totally lazy, and it's really getting on my nerves. This is just the latest example. Had he been paying attention, that entire inning could have been totally different. But again, you give the Sox an opportunity, and they WILL beat you.
Torre is constantly fucking these situations up. A guy gives up 1 base hit and he pulls him for a guy that gives up 10 leaves him in. If your SP has a 6-2 lead and hasn't given up a run in 4 innings or whatever it was,why the hell take him out and completely fuck the rythym of the game?
Are you at all surprised at Joseph's moves? Pettitte was pitching great and their was no reason to yank him...Yes Proctor did his job, but their wasn't any reason to take out Andy. And you leave Kevin Thompson to bat with a man on in the bottom of the 9th? I don't care if Giambi is hitting 0.25 against lefties, he sure as hell gives you a better shot than a rookie playing in Fenway Park pissing in his pants. If the Yanks can salvage one of the next 2 considering the pitching matchups, i'll take it.
We are back to blaming Joe already? Did any of you guys notice Andy was running out of steam a bit? If he left him in there and Boston came back there would be the same complaints about Joe. The bottom line is Boston beat us by beating our HOF closer. nothing else matters, Mariano had a 3 run lead to protect and couldn't do it. Mariano blew it, it happens once in a while.
Pettitte must be thinking Houston looks pretty good right now. No matter how well he pitches here he doesn't get the win.
I wouldn't go that far. He wants to win it all, and he has a far greater chance of doing that here than in Houston. ------------------ And yes junc, we are blaming Torre. If you can sit and dwell on ARod's past as justification of your arguments, then we can surely be justified in pointing the finger at Joe's piss-poor decision making skills. The fact is, Joe is HORRID in-game manager. I don't give a damn how much his players love him, the Jets players loved Herm too. Oh, but wait, you love Herm too, so I guess the point is lost on you there. At some point, you have to look at the situation realistically. If Joe had not pinch-run for Giambi late, and instead let him just run, he would have been on-deck when Alex came to bat in the ninth. If you don't honestly believe that such a situation would have totally changed the pitch selection to Alex, you know nothing about baseball. And how you can defend the decision to put Mo in last night, after sitting for a week, and after his last outing was a failure, against one of the best teams in the sport, is beyond me. I would have pulled Andy too. We don't disagree there. However, why did Myers only pitch to one hitter? Hell, why did Proctor get pulled? This lefty against lefty, righty against righty bullshit is tired. If a guy can't pitch to lefties and righties, he has no place on a playoff team. We know that all of our pitchers CAN pitch to either side of the plate. Yet Joe insists on his micromanagement of every single situation in the "here and now." Of course, as we see SO OFTEN with Joe, his handling of a single situation now, results in a mismanagement of a small situation later, which results in yet another L where a W was all but guaranteed. Keep defending Joe. At some point, he's going to lead to a total collapse of this team. Plain and simple, I want him fired NOW. Not at the end of the season, not next week, this morning. Donnie can have the reigns right now, on an interim basis for the rest of the year, and if it doesn't look like it's working, Girardi leaves the booth in October, and officially becomes the Yankee manager.
It really is amazing. I would have even felt better if he left Proctor in longer. He is constantly disrupting any pitching ryhthm late in the game.
Here's a really scary thought. I was just reading where the Boston fans not only didn't boo Arod last night but were mildly cheering him when he came up to bat in the 8th before his double. Maybe Yankee fans could learn something from them. It will probably speak volumes for what he does at the end of this year.
That isn't lost on me. It was my first thought when he came in when he did - that if he were ever going to blow one, it would be in April, and it would be in Boston. By the way, where the hell was Mientkiewicz playing?! He's a defensive replacement, fuhcryinoutloud. Doesn't that include guarding the line?! Lastly, I'll throw you Yankee fans a big fat bone. There are two Sox players - one critically important, the other just necessary - who are HUGE dope smoking pals. Don't think that doesn't concern me.
He has blown two, not one and both in April. Two save chances this month. Two blown saves and two losses.
I don't know who we have on the bench, but Giambi was pulled for a pinch runner in the 8th I believe and wasn't an option.
I was worried before the game that his streak would end with the pressure in Boston. Glad to be wrong.
